After Adam and Eve sin He allow His son to be put to death, why not another person or being to do it?
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"In having Jesus give his life, God was dealing with a situation that arose when Adam sinned."
As the Christian God, could he not have just forgiven us? That is the teaching of Jesus and by extension God's.
Allowing the murder of your child as one enormous guilt trip on humanity seems ridiculous (but then this is religion!).
Suicide is a mortal sin and yet Jesus allowed himself to be killed, isn't that the same as suicide by cop (or in this case Roman?).
"What a tragedy that sin was! The very first man and his wife, Eve, were perfect.It is hard to imagine how Adam or Eve could sin."
How could they be less than perfect, God made them, so they are by the bibles teachings perfect, (If God is perfect, so is everything he does/makes). But by pointing out that his creations imperfect behavior and demonstrate the flaw in God, his imperfection!
"But the first human pair rebelled against the very one who created them—Jehovah God"
Jehovah, the God of Judaism.
Jehovah, Jesus, Mary, Joseph, all the disciples, all of the Old testament characters, all the teachings and lessons contained in the bible and the christian faith are Jewish.
You are worshiping Jehovah incorrectly, the bible says 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel will enter heaven, that's 144,000 people (pretty small heaven!) but they are all Jewish! You should convert to Judaism immediately, you are going to hell!
Which is ironic as the Jews don't believe in heaven or hell (and it's been their God longer than it's been yours!).
"Using a serpent, the spirit creature Satan the Devil"
Apparently he was one of the Arch-angels, but if you want to refer to another of God's imperfect creations as proof of God's imperfection then you are welcome to.
You certainly tried to paint a picture with this sentence, "a spirit creature", that's a new one on me, where exactly is that in the bible?
Jehovah God is the Sovereign of the universe (“sovereign of the world,” Ps 47:9, Mo) by reason of his Creatorship, his Godship, and his supremacy as the Almighty. (Ge 17:1; Ex 6:3; Re 16:14) He is the Owner of all things and the Source of all authority and power, the Supreme Ruler in government. (Ps 24:1; Isa 40:21-23; Re 4:11; 11:15) In his sovereign position Jehovah has the right and authority to delegate ruling responsibilities.- Why, though, did Jesus have to suffer and then die? We need to know, for the death of Jesus can have a profound effect on our life.
Jesus was familiar with the many prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures that foretold how his life would end. (Luke 18:31-33) Consider some of the prophecies along with the Scriptural references that explain how they were fulfilled. Jesus was aware of the issues of universal importance that were raised back in the garden of Eden. Influenced by a rebellious spirit creature, Adam and Eve chose to disobey God. The couple’s rebellion called into question the rightness of God’s sovereignty, or way of ruling. Their sin also raised the question of whether any humans would prove faithful to God under test.—Genesis 3:1-6; Job 2:1-5.
So what you're saying is that there's no God? What are you saying Milander?
Jesus described his role in rescuing humankind from deadly enslavement to sin. He said: “The Son of man came . . . to give his life a ransom for many.” (Matthew 20:28, King James Version)
Being obliged had nothing to do with it. Mankind needed a ransomer for what Adam and Eve did. So Jehovah chose his son Jesus to do it and Jesus was willing to it. (Romans 6:23) In sacrificing his life, the ransomer would “taste death for every man.” In other words, he would pay the wage for Adam’s sin. (Hebrews 2:9; 2 Corinthians 5:21; 1 Peter 2:24)
Jesus feared the event but wanted to go through with it. Also I think Jesus spoke of god differently from the bible, if he spoke of god the way people know god he would have been treated like all other priests. But he said things they didn't want to hear. So no special treatments but death. Everyone seems to love or need to believe in a bigger guy who can punish them when they sin. Jesus offered love not torture so they were left with no punisher and did not accept that god is not the being the bible speaks of.
First- Jesus fear nothing, did you not read The sinless Jesus (willingly) suffered the penalty for our sins. He himself bore our sins in his own body upon the stake, in order that we might be done with sins and live to righteousness. And ‘by his stripes you were healed.’” (1 Peter 2:21, 22, 24) 2- centuries in advance Daniel’s prophecy pinpointed the exact year of the Messiah’s arrival. Perhaps the Jews in the first century C.E. had made calculations on the basis of Daniel’s prophecy and were therefore on the alert for Messiah’s appearance. The Bible reports: “Now as the people were in expectation and all were reasoning in their hearts about John: ‘May he perhaps be the Christ?’” (Lu 3:15) The Bible is correct about thing it says some just don't agree with it.
King do you have to comment on everyone's answer like you're the smart one here?
No, I'm sorry if seem that way.
Hey King its okay. You don't have to feel . . . bad. Its okay. Everyone has a bad day sometimes! ;)
Remember this is what you think, but what does the Bible say? Was he afraid to walk on water, Jesus made a whip of ropes, and he drove out those selling cattle and sheep. He scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. (John 2:13-17) Oppose the Devil three times. Never was he afraid to die, but not as a blasphemer of God's name.
Today, millions of Christians around the world will celebrate what we have come to call " Good Friday " - the day almost 2,000 years ago that the Roman authorities condemned Jesus Christ and then executed Him by nailing Him to a cross.
Why do we call it " Good Friday "? We don't call it that because Jesus' death was a joyous occasion - for it wasn't. We call it " Good Friday " because on that day the greatest event in human history took place: Jesus Christ won our salvation by taking upon Himself the sins of the world. He was without sin - but on the cross He willingly took upon Himself your sins and my sins, and He endured the judgment and Hell that we deserve. We deserve to die for our sins - but He died in our place.
You see, only one thing separates us from God - and that is our sin. We can't erase our own sins, nor can we do anything to make ourselves acceptable to God. If we are to be saved, God alone can do it - and He did, in Jesus Christ! The Bible says, "God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God" (2 Corinthians 5:21). There was no other way for us to be saved, for only in Christ are God's justice and love fulfilled.
Take time today to reflect on Jesus Christ and His death for you. Then by faith invite Him to come into your life. When He does, He'll forgive your sins and make you part of His family forever. Don't let another day go by without Christ.
that is exactly right. i love that
So I am no theologian but here goes.
Adam and Eve were created perfect, sinless. But when they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil they choose to disobey God. The one rule he gave them. They choose to sin. Now God, as He is perfect, only accepts perfection. Due to this "original sin" God had to punish Adam and Eve, this meant death. Humans were intended/created to have eternal life. But the punishment for sin is death.
Since Adam and Eve sinned, every person since them has been born a sinner. (This might seem harsh, but think about it. Everyone has either lied, stolen something, or done some sin.)
By our sin we had no hope, there was no way we could be with God. God wanted to be with us. The only way for this to happen is for us to be perfect in Gods mind. For us to be acceptable in Gods eye is for us to be sinless.
So now there is a problem, God wants us to be perfect, without sin, but we are all sinners and not perfect.
Fortunately there was a solution. Yay!
The way for this to happen was for a spotless, sinless sacrifice to offer themselves in our places. Think of it, a sinless person would not be required to die for their sins as they don't. It would be like punishing an innocent person.
Now the next problem which arose was the fact that every person is a sinner.
Where could God find a sinless person?
Jesus was the answer to the problem. But Jesus is/was God. Therefore Jesus willingly came to earth as a baby, (I am assuming you know the story of the Nativity so I won't go into details here.)
Jesus willingly died in order that we might be made perfect in Gods sight. Not only that, but he took on our sins that we might be seen as faultless before God.
Of course Jesus died from the most cruel form of torture and execution ever devised by man. But the thing about it is, even death could not hold Jesus, so Jesus conquered death and rose from the dead and is alive today. He ascended to heaven and is seated on the right hand of God.
So now we have a choice, we can either keep going our own way in our sins and deal with the punishment later. Or we can choose to accept this free gift of Jesus by acknowledging our sins before God and asking for the free gift of forgiveness and believing Jesus died for our sins and accepting him as our Lord and Saviour. If you do you are guaranteed to spend eternity with God and all believers in heaven.
Basically Jesus died so we could be reunited to God.
I hope this make sense, I tried to keep it simple.
Bravo. Bravo Carribean.
here is a verse that explains your question i think" for God so loved the world that he sent his son to die,[Jesus] so that whoever believes in him shall not parish[that means die]but have eternal life" John 3:16. it means that that he sent his only son to die for us so that we can be free of our sins.
The thing that most people do not understand is that there is way more to the natural eye. What Jesus did was more spiritual than anything. Jesus had to die because he had to go to hell, take the power of death and sin from satan, rise back up three days later to show that death could not, cannot, and will not hold him. When he rose again he could start the second part of his ministry; Grace and Mercy. Which lasted 40 days and then he went back to live with our Father in Heaven.
On Wednesday 23rd March 2016, millions of people around the world will be gathering together to commemorate the death of Jesus Christ and hear a Bible discourse about how his death benefits us.
In the hours before he died, Jesus assured his faithful apostles that they would be with him in his heavenly Kingdom. He later promised a condemned criminal, "you will be with me in Paradise" - Luke 23 verse 43.
The fulfilment of both promises is possible because Jesus surrendered his life for mankind, even for sinners like that criminal. Jesus' sacrifice was so vital that he commanded his followers to commemorate it. - Luke 22 v 19 & 20.
Seek out a Kingdom Hall near you and meet with the witnesses to hear a free Bible discourse and your question will be answered.
It may not make sense now, but go to church and this may help you. There is a trinity of faith: The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. Christ is God in the flesh. He came of his own will and his father also allowed it, but they are all One. He wanted to save us from Hell and he came to die because he is the perfect sacrifice.
well jesus had to come to show that men can be obedient to god and not sin. something that adam and eve DID NOT do..sadly ..also as a ransom to buy back what adam and eve caused for all mankind ..death , a relationship with god, and sinful flesh state. for example...if a person is kidnapped and held for ransom ..usually a high demand or price is needed to get the person back..in the same way. it was necessary for God to send his son as a perfect ransom sacrifice to buy back what adam and eve lost for all mankind..a loving gift ..his best gift his first born of all the angels to earth to save mankind from all the things I mentioned..for more info on this I encourage you to visit jw.org ..check it out sometime
In having Jesus give his life, God was dealing with a situation that arose when Adam sinned. What a tragedy that sin was! The very first man and his wife, Eve, were perfect.It is hard to imagine how Adam or Eve could sin. But the first human pair rebelled against the very one who created them—Jehovah God. Using a serpent, the spirit creature Satan the Devil deceived Eve into disobeying Jehovah, and Adam followed her.—Genesis 3:1-6. Some background to what happen but there's more to it.